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Sunday, 2011-01-30, 7:17 PM

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hetzer

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In the second world war there were hundreds of tanks but the most lethal were the ones that weren't even made
A few german examples are listed below i will try to find more these tanks would be very interesting to see as mod units the only reason i haven't made them is because my computer dosen't like 3d creating software look for these tanks on <gunpoint.3d.com> and also google them
Panzer VIII Maus
VK1602 Leopard (E.50)
P.1000
P.1500

this is all of the ones for now someone should really make these
i might get 3ds max to try and make some but how to convert to 4d.....
also some "what if" mods should be interesting..... i'm working on a few

Added (2011-01-30, 7:17 PM)
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once again regarding the skinning tutorial
the D3D/DDS(*.DDS) dosen't seem to exist i've searched the whole list
i was using GIMP
help needed urgently!!!!!! surprised

Message edited by hetzer - Sunday, 2011-01-30, 5:17 PM
 

 

Sunday, 2011-02-27, 0:54 AM

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Yeah, TG-5 is even better (more stupid) than P-1000 biggrin
 

 

Monday, 2011-05-30, 7:20 PM

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TG-5 and "Ratte" was projected by one person: ingenieur Grotte.
Another soviet projects and prototypes:

T-28 armed with 85mm long-barrel gun (1939)
T-28 armed with 95mm long-barrel gun (1940)
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki....B5.D0.B 5.D1.81.D1.8F_.D0.BD.D0.B0_.D0.B1.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B5_.D0.A2-28

Cyganov's BT, project No. 2 fast tank (1934)
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/ussr/bt-tsyganov_pr2.htm
Armour: ?
Armament: 45mm gun(?);
Maximal speed: 105km/h

SU-3 / T-27K self-propelled gun (1933)
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/ussr/su-3.htm
Self-propelled gun build on T-27 tankette chassis
Armour:
Front: 10mm
Armament: 45mm gun OR 76mm gun OR 76mm recoiless gun. OPTIONAL: 2 x 132mm RS-132 Rocket Launcher.
Version with recoiless gun http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/Photo/USSR/su-3/t27_apk_2.jpg

BT-2 armed with 203mm Kurchevsky Recoiless gun
http://lib.rus.ec/i/62/164662/i_067.jpg
Armour: 203mm recoiless gun

T-100-Y heavy assault self-propelled gun (1940)
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/ussr/t-100y.htm
Armour:
Front:60mm
Side:60mm
Armament: 130mm B-13 L/55 naval gun
Engine: 890HP GAM-34-BT, 12-cyl. (used on torpedo-boat)
Maximal speed: 32km/h (road)
Mass: 63,9t

Additional info:
SU-14 with 152mm gun
Range of fire=27km

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1st Russian project of superheavy (>80t) "tank"
"Mendeleyev's Tank" self-propelled gun (1911)
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/ussr/pr_mendeleev.htm
Armour:
Front:150mm (Turret: 8mm)
Side:100mm
Armament:120mm Canet gun; 1 x Maxim MG (Turret);
Ammo:51
Maximal speed: 14km/h
Mass: 173,2t

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1st Russian project of breakthrought tank
Troyanon's Breakthorought tank (1916)
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/ussr/troyanov_pr.htm
2 chassis - one front, one back (as a british Pedrail), on each steam engine.
Armour:??
Armament: 203mm gun (turret); 2 x 152mm gun (turret);
Engine: 2 x 1500HP

1940 soviet project of superheavy tank
VL ("Vladimir Lenin") (1940)
http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/tanks/ussr/vl.htm
Armour: max. 125mm
Armament: 130mm B-13 naval gun + 2 x 76,2mm + ? x DT mg OR 305mm B-23 gun (start velocity: 638m/s) + 2 x 76,2mm + ? x DT mg OR 130mm B-13 naval gun + 2 x 45mm + ? x DT mg OR 305mm B-23 gun (start velocity: 638m/s) + 2 x 45mm + ? x DT mg
Ammo: 100 (305mm); 100 (130mm); 300 (76,2mm);
Mass: 260...460t (few variants)
Engine: 2400HP
This project have gun of biggest kaliber of all of tanks of 1939-45 War - 305mm... (Ratte - 280mm, but 2 x 280mm).
In my opinion: this project is a result of Talvisota (1940), when soviets can't break Mannerheim-linja.

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KV-1K (object 230) heavy tank with rockets launchers (1942)
http://forum.bestway.com.ua/showthread.php?t=4150
Armour: max. 95mm (including "ekrany")
Armament: 4 x 82mm rockets(?) [in boxes over tracks] + 76,2mm ZiS-5 + 3 x 7,62mm DT mg;
Maximal speed: 35km/h (road)
Production: few prototypes in 1942 (source: http://www.redtanks.bos.ru/kw1.htm )

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KV-4 http://alternathistory.org.ua/tyazhelyi-tank-kv-4-sssr

KV-4 S.Fedorenko - multiturret tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (K. Buganov) - breakthrought tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (G. Kruchenikh) - multiturret tank, project (1940)
Mass: 107,7t
Armour:
Front:130mm
Side:130mm
Back:130mm
Turret:140mm(side)
Armament:
107mm ZiS-6 + 45mm 20-K + 4xDT
Ammo: 105 x 107mm, 300 x 45mm

KV-4 (F. Marishkin) - multiturret tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (G. Moskvin) - multiturret tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (N. Strukov) - multiturret tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (Ya. Yermolayev) - multiturret tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (L. Sichyev) - multiturret tank, project (1940)

KV-4 (L. Pyeryevyerzyev) - multiturret tank, project (1940)
Mass: 100t
Armour:
Front: 125mm
Side: 125mm
Back: 125mm
Armament:
107mm ZiS-6 + 45mm 20-K + 4xDT
Ammo:
100 x 107mm; 103 x 45mm;
Max. speed: 39km/h

KV-4 M. Khreslavskogo - breakthrought tank, project (1940)
Mass: 92,6t
Engine: 1200HP
Max. speed: 45km/h
Armour:
Front: 130mm
Side: 125mm
Back: 130mm
Turret: 140mm (side)
Armament:
107mm ZiS-6 + 45mm 20-K + 3xDT mg

KV-4 (N. Dukhov) - breakthrought tank (1940)

KV-4 (N. Shashmurin) - breakthrough tank (1940)
Armament:
107mm ZiS-6, hull
76,2m, turret
? x DT

KV-4 (P. Mikhaylov) - breakthrough tank (1940)
Mass: 86,5t
Armour:
Front:180mm
Side:150mm
Back:130mm
Armament:
45mm 20-K, hull
107mm ZiS-6, turret
3 x DT
flamethrower
Ammo: 85 x 107mm; 150 x 45mm;
Max. speed: 50km/h

KV-4 (G. Turchanov) - breakthrough tank (1940)
45mm 20-K, hull
107mm ZiS-6, turret
? x DT

KV-4 (N. Tseig) - Breakthrought tank (1940)
Mass: 90t
Armour:
Front: 130mm
Side: 125mm
Back: 125mm
Armament:
107mm ZiS-6 turret
2 x 7,62mm DS mg
flamethrower
Ammo: 120 x 107mm

KV-4 kolektivniy project (P.Tarapatin, K.Kuzmin, W.Tariotko)
Mass: 88t
107mm ZiS-6 turret (130 degree turn)
45mm 20-K
Armour:
125mm (all)
Ammo:
20 x 107mm; 160 x 45mm;
Max. speed: 36km/h

KV-4 (V.Pavlov)

KV-4 (D.Grigorovich)

KV-4 (NN project I)
http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/231210_kv4_09.jpg

KV-4 (NN project II)
http://alternathistory.org.ua/files/231210_kv4_10.jpg

A-44, project (1941) [variant I]
http://alternathistory.org.ua/44-supertank-sssr-1941g
Mass: 29...29,5t
Armour:
Front: 75mm sloped
Side: 60mm
Back: 55mm sloped
Turret: 75mm sloped
Armament
76,2mm ZiS-5 + 4 x DT mg
OR
57mm ZiS-4 + 4 x DT mg
OR
76,2mm ZiS-5 + 2 x DT mg + flamethrower
OR
57mm ZiS-4 + 2 x DT mg + flamethrower
OPTIONAL 76,2mm+2DT ==> 107mm OR 57mm+2DT ==> 107mm
Ammo: 100 for cannon OR 90 for cannon + 15 for flamethrower
Maximum speed: 55...60km/h

A-44, project (1941) [variant II, III, IV]
Mass: 36t [II]; 40t [III]; 50t [IV];
Armour:
Front: 75mm sloped [II]; 90mm sloped [III]; 120mm sloped [IV];
Side: 60mm [II]; 75mm [III]; 100mm [IV];
Back: 30mm [II]; 35mm [III]; 40mm [IV]
Engine: 600HP OR 850HP
Max. speed: 59km/h [II]; 65km/h [III]; 53km/h [IV];

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P.Yosohin's Tank - superheavy tank - 1942 (project)
http://alternathistory.org.ua/superor....lektrik
http://img12.imageshost.ru/img/2011/02/09/image_4d52f257e6d28.jpg
Mass: ~270t
Armament
2x152mm+5x76mm+2x23mm+3x12,7mm+14x7,62mm
Ammo
152mm - 160...200
76mm - 650...800
23mm - 1200
12,7mm - 4500
7,62mm - 26460
Armour: minimal 40mm; maximal 125mm
Engine: M-30 OR M-40
4000...6000HP
Maximal speed: 36...40km/h

Added (2011-05-14, 8:18 PM)
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Francais FCM F1 - superheavy tank - 1939 (project)
http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/tanks/france/fcm_f1.htm
http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files....-F1.htm
Mass: 140...145t
Armament:
90mm+47mm+4x7,5mmMG
Armour:
Front: 120mm
Side: 100...120mm
Engine: 2x550HP
Maximal speed: 20...24km/h

Added (2011-05-30, 7:20 PM)
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T-28 conical turret (1940)
Produced: 12(?)
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2....ic1.jpg
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2....bp1.jpg
http://ww2armor.jexiste.fr/Files....28E.htm
Armament: 76,2mm L-10+5xDT mg
Ammo: 70x76,2mm
Armour (as T-28E, but sloped Turret armour):
Front: 80mm
Side: 40mm
Rear: 40mm
Maximal speed (road): 23km/h
Soviet Union produced only 12(?) T-28 conical turret, but produced too 111 T-28E (T-28 with additional armour), circa 80% of T-28E was used during defense of Leningrad.

Have any other country medium tank with 80mm armour in 1940?

 

 

Friday, 2011-06-17, 5:18 PM

Message # 4

hetzer

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If you go to thw world of tanks website then onto the "tankopedia" you can find quite a lot of tanks simply click on one and all the technical data pops up some of the stuff there is very interesting...

Something good comes out of my questions
 

 

Thursday, 2011-06-23, 1:37 PM

Message # 5

Daweo

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Technical drawing are on http://www.bronetehnika.narod.ru/
E.g. KV-5:
http://www.bronetehnika.narod.ru/heavy_proekt/kv5_2.gif
 

 

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